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如果公司给配的笔记本(借给员工用), 那么下班时间回到家,用公司的电脑写的代码归谁?

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  •   qq12345454 · Jul 13, 2017 · 3633 views
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    Supplement 1  ·  Jul 14, 2017
    看到大家都说归公司

    那就是说, 公司给配(借给员工用)的电脑

    不论何时,都不能写员工自己的代码, 因为不管何时何地,在这个电脑上写的任何代码,都是公司所有的

    如果员工下班时间在自己家 用这个电脑接的小项目,所写的代码也是属于公司,而不属于员工自己


    是这样吗? 有法律相关的大侠 解答下吗
    20 replies  •  2017-07-16 11:58:30 +08:00
    xux9311
    xux9311
    Jul 13, 2017❤️3
    1
    打 dota2 涨的天梯分总不归公司吧。
    spoony
    spoony
    Jul 13, 2017❤️1
    2
    《硅谷》里面法官判定归公司
    HuangLibo
    HuangLibo
    Jul 13, 2017 via iPhone
    3
    @xux9311 嘿嘿
    holmesabc
    holmesabc
    Jul 13, 2017
    4
    肯定归公司啦
    USCONAN
    USCONAN
    Jul 13, 2017
    5
    歸公司
    Kilerd
    Kilerd
    Jul 13, 2017 via iPhone
    6
    那对于那些自己带电脑去,领电脑补贴的呢?
    没道理。
    yuelang85
    yuelang85
    Jul 13, 2017
    7
    @Kilerd 根据马克思说的,生产资料/生产工具 所有者是谁?
    Dart
    Dart
    Jul 13, 2017 via Android
    8
    用 cloud ide 等非本地写代码即可。
    levn
    levn
    Jul 13, 2017
    9
    The "work-made-for-hire" doctrine generally defines the relationship between a software developer and his or her client.

    A segment of software code is a "work-made-for-hire" if it is either:

    a) A work prepared by an employee in the scope of his or her employment; or

    b) a work specially ordered or commissioned for use as [1] a contribution to a collective work, [2] as a part of a motion picture or [3] other audiovisual work, [4] as a translation, [5] as a supplementary work, [6] as a compilation, [7] as an instructional text, [8] as a test, [9] as answer material for a test, or [10] as an atlas, if the parties expressly agree in a written instrument signed by them that the work shall be considered a work made for hire. (17 U.S.C. § 101)

    In either situation, the author of the code does not own the copyright in the code, as would be expected under the basic copyright framework. Rather, the person or business that employs the author or that commissioned the software owns the copyright in the code.
    When a developer creates software as an employee, determining ownership of that software under the "work-made-for-hire" rule is relatively straightforward. Any work a developer creates within the scope of his or her employment is owned by the employer. Analysis of whether work is "within the scope of employment" can be extremely complex. However, at its most basic, if a developer writes a particular piece of software for work, his or her employer owns the copyright to that software.

    http://asp-software.org/www/misv_resources/business-articles/who-owns-the-code/
    jadecoder
    jadecoder
    Jul 13, 2017
    10
    如果公司给配的中性笔(借给员工用), 那么下班时间回到家,用公司的中性笔写的小说归谁?
    Betacoefficient
    Betacoefficient
    Jul 13, 2017
    11
    @xux9311 归公司,因为你老是使用蚂蚁的大。
    nullen
    nullen
    Jul 14, 2017
    12
    归公司
    happya
    happya
    Jul 14, 2017
    13
    那下的小片片岂不是也要归公司(手动头像)
    ytf4425
    ytf4425
    Jul 14, 2017
    14
    啧,偷偷地转移到自己的笔记本上(手动滑稽
    lmmortal
    lmmortal
    Jul 14, 2017
    15
    应该是归个人的 如果去租车公司租了辆车,开滴滴赚外快,收入应该算租车公司的吗?
    lylsh1993
    lylsh1993
    Jul 14, 2017 via iPhone
    16
    @jadecoder 公司没让你拿到家,所以这是职务侵占,小说还是你的
    jadecoder
    jadecoder
    Jul 15, 2017
    17
    @lylsh1993 我司就允许员工带电脑回家,晚上也有可能有故障要处理嘛。明文允许把公司的笔带回去倒是真没有。
    jadecoder
    jadecoder
    Jul 15, 2017
    18
    我认为代码和小说一样属于智力创造,和作者使用谁的时间创作有关,如果用公司付了钱的时间,应该是公司的,如果用自己业余的时间,就是自己的。

    假设,此人设计了一个巨牛逼的算法,用了一个月时间构思,一直在脑子里思考和计算,最后用一晚上把算法用 Java 实现了,这个算法的归属和最终实现它的电脑有关系吗?

    所以我认为,只有代码真正上线运行了,产生用户和数据,才涉及到生产资料的问题,用谁的服务器,就是谁的。
    lylsh1993
    lylsh1993
    Jul 15, 2017 via iPhone
    19
    @jadecoder 说的就是笔啊
    jadecoder
    jadecoder
    Jul 16, 2017
    20
    @lylsh1993 所以这个帖子在讨论代码是谁的,而不是职务侵占
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